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[*] posted on 8-8-2008 at 03:32 PM


Until recently I didn't have any expired cards and now I have two and two are about to expire due to inactive users :(

But I guess my list still looks pretty good compared to others here.

US-205874 Shondra Finland 44 days Traveling
US-202188 kongsk128 Thailand 51 days Traveling
US-193942 godsoriginalcreation Netherlands 70 days Expired
US-190436 y2227296 Taiwan 78 days Expired
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[*] posted on 8-8-2008 at 04:36 PM


I've got 7 (long) expired cards and about 3 more deleted ones...

I'm always slightly angry about inactive users who enjoy getting my cards but never bother to register them :( and on top of that they are blocking me for 60 days :mad:

does anybody know if their addresses will be given out again by the system after 60 days of not receiving a card? this would really make me angry if they get even more cards and won't register them! btw: i suspected this when I saw users who have 5 sent cards and 15 received (and all registered on the same day... [most likely that country's post system is to blame])

i think we should motion that the users' activity status should be checked by the postcrossing system. something like that: if someone has not logged in for - lets say - 3 months, they should be sent an email asking for their logging in to confirm they are still active. and if they won't log in within a month, their account should be deleted...

this would save the active useres many a disappointment.
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[*] posted on 8-8-2008 at 05:04 PM


... just found out that there's a different forum about the inactive users, so the last part of my post is a bit out of place. sorry ;)
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[*] posted on 8-8-2008 at 10:18 PM


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does anybody know if their addresses will be given out again by the system after 60 days of not receiving a card?


No their address does not go back into the address pool.

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btw: i suspected this when I saw users who have 5 sent cards and 15 received (and all registered on the same day... [most likely that country's post system is to blame])


There was a short period of time when there was a glitch in the postcrossing system and people got sent more cards than they had received. Paulo fixed that glitch when it became evident. The registered all on one day is not due to the postal system but the postcrossing system where it automatically registered deleted members cards.

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i think we should motion that the users' activity status should be checked by the postcrossing system. something like that: if someone has not logged in for - lets say - 3 months, they should be sent an email asking for their logging in to confirm they are still active. and if they won't log in within a month, their account should be deleted...


The Postcrossing system does this already. An email is sent at 60 days. It used to be that a member was deleted if they hadn't responded to that email after a month (so it was 90 days of inactivity) but that caused issues when a person wanted to come back or register the cards they had received after 90 days. The system had no way of checking why a person was deleted. Now no-one is actually deleted from the system unless they request it. Their address hasn't been in the address pool for a long time, it will only go back in if they become active again, and that happens as well.

Paulo has done all of these things (and more) with his address algorythm to be as fair as possible to the members. Occaisionally there is a glitch but he is on top of it when patterns emerge.
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[*] posted on 8-8-2008 at 10:52 PM


Thank you very much for those explanations, Vicki! (especially as I was posting in the wrong forum!)

I really can imagine how very difficult it is to find a solution that suits the users best - those who wish to send many cards and are annoyed about delays in registering as well as those who are for some reason inactive for a while and wish to take part again...

The system chosen sounds like a fair solution for all :) thanks for all the work!
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[*] posted on 21-8-2008 at 05:56 PM


Can I ask a question as a newbie? What have people found the best way to handle hards that haven't been posted? I sent a PM / message (a nice one, of course!), and also sent a second card. When does it officially become expired? After 60 days? Two of mine are at 30 days right now. One is in Japan and the other is in the Netherlands.

Also, once it expires can I send more cards? These two are taking the spaces of possible cards I can send, which bums me out!

Thanks for your help!
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[*] posted on 21-8-2008 at 06:52 PM


volvomom, your cards will expire after 60 days. Then you can send more cards (expired cards don't count as travelling ones), though the expired ones still can be registered.
I'm going to have my first expired card tomorrow...
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[*] posted on 25-8-2008 at 03:37 AM


Thanks for your help. I have two, but they're just at about 40 days or so. It's disappointing, but I'm still hopeful! Maybe with the summer people are traveling or just in relaxing mode. :)
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[*] posted on 26-8-2008 at 07:40 AM


Yesterday 2 more cards expired. :( *sniffles*
Now I have 4 expired cards... 1 was already deleted (Turkey).


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[*] posted on 3-9-2008 at 04:31 PM


IT-19690 Akuli Finland 27 Jun, 2008 2,238 Kms 67 days Expired
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[*] posted on 20-9-2008 at 12:55 AM
EXPIRED [14]


Country, days traveling, last logged, resent times, contact answered?

China, 323 days, 5 months ago, 2 times, NO
Ireland, 323 days, 2 months ago, 3 times, NO
Spain, 287 days, today, 4 times, NO
Finland, 262 days, 1 month ago, 2 times, NO
Japan, 262 days, 5 days ago, 5 times, NO
Romania, 262 days, 4 days ago, 5 times, NO [inactive forum member]
USA, 200 days, 4 months ago, 1 time, NO
Netherlands, 200 days, 6 months, 1 time, NO
Germany, 132 days, 4 months ago, 2 times, NO
China, 132 days, today, 3 times, YES
UK, 126 days, today, 2 times, NO
Poland, 102 days, 16 days ago, 1 time, NO
France, 80 days, 9 days ago, 2 times, NO
Hungary, 60 days, a week ago, 2 times, YES

Traveling [9]:

Finland, 51 days, a week ago, 1 time, NO
UK, 51 days, 1 month ago, 1 time, NO
Canada, 51 days, a week ago, 1 time, DIDN’T SEND MESSAGE
Taiwan, 34 days, today, 1 time, DIDN’T SEND MESSAGE
Japan, 32 days, 3 months ago, 0 times, NO
Estonia, 21 days, today, 1 time, DIDN’T SEND MESSAGE
Germany, 19 days, 5 days ago, 1 time, DIDN’T SEND MESSAGE
Brazil, 19 days, 5 days, ago, 1 time, DIDN’T SEND MESSAGE
China, 18 days, 1 month ago, 1 time, NO

NEW COUNTRIES: Ireland, Romania, Poland, France, Hungary

Past expires [total=20]:
-Finland (my first official :) [2]
-France [2]
-Malaysia [1]
-Australia [1]

Expired registered:
Germany (2), after 236 days & 61 days
UK, after 67 days
Japan, after 102 days
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[*] posted on 20-10-2008 at 04:19 PM


1 deleted
to Amira-el-Nil, Norway, sent 3 Aug 2007, 1167km

1 expired, but not deleted yet
to rcazzara, USA, sent 22 Dec 2007, 9152km

1 close to expire :/
to MountainMom, USA, sent 29 Aug, 2008, 8969km, 52 days

103 registered
2 travelling
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[*] posted on 28-10-2008 at 01:30 PM


Got a fourth card expired - to Russia, 61 days. The other 3, Germany (106 days) Thailand (119 days) Canada (126 days) :(
Son has 2 cards expired, USA-Alaska (135 days) and Thailand (105 days).
I sent a message to the one in Alaska and she hasn't logged on in 6 months, though she was an active postcrosser (hope everything is ok...)
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[*] posted on 7-11-2008 at 01:45 PM


Registered a card today (my only postcard in the post that arrived), - postmarked 30th August, travelled 74 days! Had a look at the other postcards the user had sent to the UK - one card arrived after 27 days, and another took 103 days.
A fifth card is on the way to expiry, to Germany.
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[*] posted on 9-11-2008 at 11:23 AM


Here are my expired cards:

NL-102647 mistyeiz Australia 12 Sep, 2008 16,743 Kms 57 days Almost expired
NL-84777 Dark_Lia Germany 23 Jun, 2008 356 Kms 138 days Expired
NL-77900 yumyumunicorn U.S.A. 13 May, 2008 7,157 Kms 179 days Expired
NL-67337 kina Poland 3 Feb, 2008 935 Kms 280 days Expired
NL-65858 ghealach U.S.A. 13 Jan, 2008 6,986 Kms 301 days Expired
NL-61644 Michi73 Germany 10 Nov, 2007 243 Kms 365 days Expired
NL-61642 Tarina Finland 10 Nov, 2007 1,513 Kms 365 days Expired
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[*] posted on 10-11-2008 at 12:49 PM


Here are my expired cards:
NL-101304 Moni80 Austria 63 days Expired
NL-99577 KAKULU China 70 days Expired
NL-97975 ostfriese Germany 77 days Expired
NL-84819 shiki Japan 139 days Expired

I tried to contact all these users, but didn't heard back from them.
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[*] posted on 19-11-2008 at 07:23 PM


I have sent 177 cards, and I have 8 expired cards. That is only 5%, so it is not too bad, but having 4 cards expire from the same month is a bit disappointing.

US-252660 United Kingdom 12 Sep, 2008 6,387 Kms 68 days Expired
US-252297 Slovenia 11 Sep, 2008 7,651 Kms 68 days Expired
US-249329 Thailand 7 Sep, 2008 13,845 Kms 73 days Expired
US-249328 Taiwan 7 Sep, 2008 12,206 Kms 73 days Expired
US-207870 Germany 27 Jun, 2008 6,957 Kms 145 days Expired
US-186644 Turkey 13 May, 2008 8,956 Kms 190 days Expired
US-158049 Turkey 15 Feb, 2008 8,956 Kms 278 days Expired
US-153890 Taiwan 26 Jan, 2008 12,249 Kms 298 days Expired
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[*] posted on 28-11-2008 at 10:24 PM


I have 2 at the moment.
US-244026 to Netherlands: 91 days
US-261206 to China: 63 days
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[*] posted on 1-12-2008 at 11:39 AM


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NL-102647 mistyeiz Australia 12 Sep, 2008 16,743 Kms 57 days Almost expired

Mistyeiz is the active postcrosser, even on the forum.. You can resend the card ;)
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[*] posted on 1-12-2008 at 01:40 PM


expired cards from 2008

DE-217585...Inkie85...Netherlands...68 days...Expired
DE-214467...roy1313...U.S.A....75 days...Expired
DE-212522...pixiecat...Romania...79 days...Expired
DE-192176...cmu4404363...Thailand...128 days...Expired
DE-191859...eacikgoz...Turkey...129 days...Expired
DE-174056...omspace...China...173 days...Expired
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[*] posted on 4-12-2008 at 03:33 AM


NL-101304 Moni80 Austria 63 days Expired

Few days ago, I received an official from Moni80. She is active, and you may try to send her a card again.
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[*] posted on 4-12-2008 at 07:36 AM


FI-354470 - Thailand - 24 Aug, 2008 - 101 days
FI-344848 - Belarus - 10 Aug, 2008 - 115 days
FI-329780 - U.S.A. - 17 Jul, 2008 - 139 days
FI-327116 - Denmark - 13 Jul, 2008 - 143 days
FI-318317 - Romania - 26 Jun, 2008 - 160 days
FI-258867 - Germany - 10 Feb, 2008 - 298 days
FI-242108 - United Kingdom - 12 Dec, 2007 - 358 days

The ID to UK will be deleted from my sent list in a week or so. Altogether I have had 28 expired cards but 7 of them have already been deleted from the list and 14 have been registered eventually. By now I have sent 689 cards (+21 traveling).
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[*] posted on 27-2-2009 at 08:54 AM


ID-1289 to China - expired :(
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[*] posted on 28-2-2009 at 09:41 PM


I have 11 expired cards now.

FI-435162 Brazil15 Dec, 2008 75 days
FI-434813 Japan 14 Dec, 2008 76 days
FI-427724 Belarus 3 Dec, 2008 87 days
FI-409922 Estonia 9 Nov, 2008 111 days
FI-401558 Singapore 29 Oct, 2008 122 days
FI-391793 U.S.A. 16 Oct, 2008 135 days
FI-354470 Thailand 24 Aug, 2008 188 days
FI-344848 Belarus 10 Aug, 2008 202 days
FI-329780 U.S.A. 17 Jul, 2008 226 days
FI-327116 Denmark 13 Jul, 2008 230 days
FI-318317 Romania 26 Jun, 2008 247 days
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[*] posted on 1-3-2009 at 12:26 PM


Sent: 213, travelling: 12, expired:4. Could be worse...

PL-15233 to Singapore, 100 days
PL-15203 to China, 100 days
PL-14196 to Austria, 128 days
PL-10459 to Germany, 252 days

I had one more (to Finland), but it was registered after 63 days.
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